November 04, 2014

Why do we have a podcast (that doesn't talk about paleo desserts)?

I spoke with Lloyd Kahn today in an attempt to get him to come on the Paleo Treats podcast.  Lloyd is exactly the kind of guy whose ideas I want to share with you; well educated, former military (hey, the Air Force is still a part of the military!) and a total sustainable and small footprint true believer.  

Lloyd has written books, built houses, changed his ideas as he went (the mark of a mature human), and still gets out and uses the body he's got, surfing, skateboarding, and paddleboarding at 79 years old.

He was a little cagey; I can tell he's been asked for a bunch of interviews.  He asked what Paleo Treats had to do with him, and why he should come on the podcast, and I'm embarrassed to say I didn't have an articulate answer for him.

He suggested that I run the podcast separately from Paleo Treats as a point of clarity.  It was a good suggestion, and definitely an improvement from the "UX" standpoint, but I'm not convinced. 

I've been thinking about the lack of clarity since we got off the phone with a promise for me to call him back in February of 2015, and wanted to put my thoughts down for myself, for him, and for any future interviewees.

There are two reasons I built and produce the Paleo Treats podcast.

First & foremost, I run the podcast in order to share some of the conversations I've been privileged to be a part of.  

From day-long rambling talks with Chris the problem solver to short educational seminars on Sudan with Robert Young Pelton, to thoughts on Western Civilization with Victor Davis Hanson and into the visceral experience of dragging a person from a burning car with Shawn Alladio, I feel like it's greedy to keep these conversations with intelligent, articulate, driven, and experienced people as only something for me to enjoy.

It's why I co-host instead of host; great things are meant to be shared, and it's why I've spent a fair amount of money and time on setting up a recording studio so I can produce good sound.  It certainly doesn't make Paleo Treats much, if any, money, in fact, we're about $3,500 in the red for the podcast already. 

Second, I run the podcast because it's in alignment with our company goals.  We may have dumped a bunch of cash into the podcast so far, but it's money well spent in my book.  If you go back to the original "Why are we in business sign" that's been hanging in the office as long as we've been here, you'll get more of an idea:

The podcast is an answer to directives 1 & 2.  Will it ever meet #3?  Eventually.  We put out good information, we do the best we can to make sure it sounds good (in the technical sense), and we're getting more and more exposure through our cookie sales, so as more people listen to it I'm sure we'll figure out how to monetize that.

Still, why would a master builder, author, and general health fanatic (whether it's planetary or personal) want to come on the show?  

Hopefully (and maybe a little naively), it's because he, like us and our other guests, holds adding quality, beauty, and joy to the world in high regard, and puts as much value on having fun as we do.  

Here's to a fantastic podcast when we eventually convince him!

Listen Via Paleo Treats® Podcast on Libsyn Paleo Treats® Podcast on Stitcher Paleo Treats® Podcast on iTunes



Nik Hawks


Nik Hawks helps run the show at Paleo Treats. Fascinated by humans in all their strange glory, Nik is harnessed in and pulling hard in pursuit of excellence with the rest of the PT Crew. Enjoy!

Too much reading...
How about dessert?

Too Much Reading...How About Dessert?

1 Comment


November 05, 2014

Tell Lloyd that you’re trying to hand dig a well in your backyard, that you shit in a sawdust bucket, reclaim your grey water and have the best urban homestead in SD. On his next drive to Baja, tell him to drive down and take a look for himself, and then take him out to Ralph’s for a surf session. That way he can do the podcast in person.

Leave a comment

Comments will be approved before showing up.